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[Kyle Herring] While the crew continues
its work we'll take the opportunity now

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to welcome Cheryl Malloy to the International
Space Station Flight Control Room.

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Cheryl's on a phone but she's located down
at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida.

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Cheryl welcome.

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[Cheryl Malloy] Thank you Kyle.

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It's a pleasure to be here.

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I wish I'd been able to squeeze in a trip down
to Houston and be in the control room with you.

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[Kyle] Well next time we'll
hopefully get you here.

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Cheryl is a partner manager for the, for United
Launch Alliance, one of the seven partners

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in the Commercial Crew Program and I
wanted to take an opportunity to talk

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to all seven, Cheryl will close out our week.

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And Cheryl I always start with a
little biographical information.

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So tell us all about yourself, where
you grew up and how you got to NASA.

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[Cheryl] Oh, okay.

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I was born and raised on
the Florida space coast.

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So I've been watching rockets
launch from my backyard all my life.

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My parents both worked for
NASA during the Apollo era.

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So that sort of makes me a
second-generation space baby.

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I like to tell folks I've been at NASA forever

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and I think you got a picture
with my proof there.

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Most folks assumed that I would just
follow naturally in my parents' footsteps.

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That's not quite the case.

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I went to the local community
college, Brevard Community College,

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and graduated as a medical lab technician
and worked in the local hospital for a while.

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And then I decided I wanted to be an electrical
engineer and I didn't know it at the time

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but that's pretty much a
natural step for med techs.

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I went to Florida Tech which is, used
to be Florida Institute of Technology

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and while I was there I cooped with NASA's
Biomedical Engineering Group and that sort

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of blended both experiences really well.

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And after I graduated, NASA offered me a
job working life science SpaceLab missions.

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You remember SpaceLabs?

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[Kyle] Yep.

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Absolutely.

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[Cheryl] Yeah.

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My favorite was SpaceLab Japan working
with their Japanese life science teams.

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That was a great opportunity.

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NASA's also provided me an opportunity to
go to school at night and earn my Masters

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in Engineering Management from
the University of Central Florida.

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And just recently I got a certificate
in Space Systems Engineering

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from the Stevens Institute of Technology.

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And I think just, you know, excuse me,
learning is just a part of NASA's culture.

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[Kyle] Yeah, no kidding.

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How, so, you know, that's how you got here.

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But what did you do before you
joined the Commercial Crew Program?

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[Cheryl] After SpaceLabs I actually
moved over to Launch Services Program.

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They moved that program down
here to Kennedy Space Center

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and I helped start that program here.

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And I had the opportunity to lead
teams launching NASA missions

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on expendable launch vehicles
including those termed ULA.

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So that's where the relationship
started being built with ULA.

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And LSP offered me a whole range of
opportunities from being responsible

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for sending teams downrange to Africa and
Australia to capture downrange telemetry

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and also doing the first orbital missions
from the Kodiak Launch Complex in Alaska.

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[Kyle] Wow.

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That's a pretty impressive.

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[Cheryl] It's a wide range for sure.

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[Kyle] No kidding.

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Well, talk to us a little bit about
your role now as a partner manager.

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What do you do as a partner manager
for ULA and what is your role?

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[Cheryl] Partner manager sounds
like a jam job, doesn't it?

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I'm going to go out and manage partners.

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And that is so not the case.

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First and foremost we're partners with ULA.

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I serve as an interface between our pit
crew, I think you talked about that,

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our teams are partner integration teams and ULA.

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And we foster a good relationship,
we foster collaboration in areas

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where we have experience that
they might be looking for.

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We're trying to break down barriers
and facilitate an understanding that,

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our understanding of what commercial
means to them and their understanding

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of what human space flight means to us.

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And something I'm not sure you've
heard too much about for the,

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for the partner managers is we also
advocate for our partners within the program.

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That sort of sounds like I've changed
badges but that is not the case.

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What the program needs to hear from the
seven partner managers is how decisions

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that they're making are affecting the
partners and their program gets cross-view

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of how those decisions may be
impacting several partners.

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And so each of the partners does that
advocacy back into the program and allows them

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to see how decisions could be
affecting all of the partners.

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[Kyle] You talk about the
pit crew and, you know,

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Ed Mango mentioned that earlier in the week.

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It's a pretty impressive group of people
that you guys put together, you know,

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to support you I guess in the
role as a Partner Manager right?

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[Cheryl] That's true.

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My pit crew, if I can brag
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actually they are mentors
and Ed did mention that.

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They're from Marshall and JSC.

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We've got some time Langley and KSC, all
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as well and they bring a
wealth of experience both

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in human space flight and Atlas-V experience.

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Again, that's why the Launch
Services Program is currently flying.

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And, you know, we've got folks that
have worked shuttle and Ares and 1-X.

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And so all of that experience together allows
them to gain an understanding back and forth,

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as well as share that data
with United Launch Alliance.

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[Kyle] Talk about the Space
Act Agreement part of this.

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It's a new way of doing business.

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But how are you integrated with ULA?

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[Cheryl] Ed did mention earlier in
the week that there were 4 fundeds

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and 3 unfundeds and ULA is an unfunded.

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We are further along in the, in the technology
and we're talking about that fundeds went to,

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you know, development risk areas

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and United Launch Alliance has 29
successful Atlas-V launches already.

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They've been flying that heritage vehicle for
a very long time and although it's, you know,

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it's not suitable for human space
flight right now all of that data

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and technology has allowed ULA to
gain confidence in their vehicle,

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so they really know how it operates.

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And that will allow them to, to
make the unique accommodations

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that are required in human space flight.

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It'll allow them to do that
better with the understanding

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of how their vehicle already flies.

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[Kyle] I know, I'm going to
jump around a little bit,

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cause we've only got about
five more minutes or so.

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But, I know you had a video that
you asked us to prepare for you.

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If this is a good time I'd like
for you to either show that

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or talk to it for us if you don't mind.

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[Cheryl] Sure.

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If you want, if you went go
ahead play it I'll talk to it.

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And what I'm showing you, and actually it
starts with an Atlas-V launch and processing.

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And those always get your blood going.

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One of the design modifications that ULA
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and they've already done some work on this.

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ULA developed the prototype of emergency
detection system and the processor

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and the software that are going to require,
be required to monitor the launch vehicle.

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So in using this vehicle for human
spaceflight you've got to also have the ability

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to abort the crew in case something's going
wrong with the vehicle or the spacecraft.

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So what you're watching is just some interaction
between my team and the ULA team on looking

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at the software and algorithms in
doing the bottom of the purview

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on how those failures might be detected,
which sensors you would be looking at,

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and what is the backup corroboration
sensor that would say, "Yeah,

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the tank pressure might be falling.

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Are we losing acceleration?"

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Those types of measurement and after they've
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and we actually took it to the SIL
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which is a high fidelity laboratory,
and demonstrated with hardware

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that the emergency detection software
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What's really important about this is
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with an emergency detection system.

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You want to be able to get off
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or a spacecraft that's got an issue.

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You want to be really, really sure
you don't get off a bad rocket.

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You want to be able to do
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You want that detection system
to work just right.

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[Kyle] Well you probably
touched on it in your video.

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But with a couple of minutes we have left
can you talk about some of the milestones

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that ULA has accomplished thus
far and what's ahead of them?

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[Cheryl] Okay.

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So last September they did a Design
Equivalency Review and that's where ULA decided

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that they would do their own
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against Commercial Crew Program's 1100 series.

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So that allowed them to see if there
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to do something different with the Atlas-V.

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I, and that started, you know, started the
conversations between our team and their team

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on what would meet the intent and what
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They finished that, that review with a tailored
systems requirements review in December of 2011.

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And it came down to four major areas that
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One was the emergency detection system
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They're going to do what's called the managed
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One thing we don't think too much about is that
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And that has no way to get the crew in or
out at this point, or an egress system.

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So that's one of the ones
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Then they're going a look
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which will improve the capability
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So those are four main things
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And they're evaluating and
doing the testing on that.

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So their upcoming systems requirements
review in mid-June will report

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out on how they're doing and
developing those designs.

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[Kyle] And it's just a tremendous
amount of work.

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And I think you've layed that out
beautifully in the, in the time we have here.

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I really appreciate you taking the time,

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in fact all of the Commercial Crew
Program experts that joined us all week.

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But that was a great way of
wrapping up the week Cheryl.

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We appreciate you joining
us here in Mission Control.

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[Cheryl] Oh, well thanks
very much for having me.

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[Kyle] Thanks again.

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That was Cheryl Malloy, the Commercial
Crew Program's Partner Manager